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		<title>By: CatholicSphere &#187; CatholicSphere Retro</title>
		<link>http://blog.catholicsphere.com/2006/05/08/they-just-love-to-hate-mary.html#comment-8604</link>
		<dc:creator>CatholicSphere &#187; CatholicSphere Retro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 14:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] They just love to hate Mary &#8211; 2006.05.08 Time and again, those who disagree with the Catholic Church spend a significant amount of time and energy arguing against the Marian doctrines as evidence of the Catholic Church being {insert your favorite insult here}. But, even if, by some strange happening, the Catholic Church has something wrong about Mary, is it enough to invalidate its status as Christian? ~ [Click here to read the entire entry] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] They just love to hate Mary &#8211; 2006.05.08 Time and again, those who disagree with the Catholic Church spend a significant amount of time and energy arguing against the Marian doctrines as evidence of the Catholic Church being {insert your favorite insult here}. But, even if, by some strange happening, the Catholic Church has something wrong about Mary, is it enough to invalidate its status as Christian? ~ [Click here to read the entire entry] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PAT</title>
		<link>http://blog.catholicsphere.com/2006/05/08/they-just-love-to-hate-mary.html#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>PAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 10:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOT YOUR MESSAGE ---NOT TO BAD FOR A START
ITS 3.30 IN THE MORNING SO I WILL GET BACK TO YOU TOMMARROW BECAUSE I AM OFF THATS FOR THE REPLY SEE YOU TOMMARROW


PAT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOT YOUR MESSAGE &#8212;NOT TO BAD FOR A START<br />
ITS 3.30 IN THE MORNING SO I WILL GET BACK TO YOU TOMMARROW BECAUSE I AM OFF THATS FOR THE REPLY SEE YOU TOMMARROW</p>
<p>PAT</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.catholicsphere.com/2006/05/08/they-just-love-to-hate-mary.html#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 22:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting your specific questions on this topic.  

I hope you will permit me to focus my reply on that which pertains to the original posting and point of that post.  It is not that adequate answers cannot be given to the other questions, but to try to answer them here could move things off topic.  In reality, those questions have been answered by many Catholic apologists and there are many good resources on the web -- such as &lt;a href="http://ic.net/~erasmus/ERASMUS9.HTM" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dave Armstrong's Biblical Evidence for Catholicism&lt;/a&gt; -- which answer them quite deeply and from a number of perspectives.

So, let me get to the questions:

3)  &lt;b&gt;Why does Mary have to be special?&lt;/b&gt;
Mary is "special" because she was chosen by God to carry, give birth to, raise and protect our Lord and Savior.  As I said in my blog entry, the implication of all this is unique to her and makes her distinct from all other women in history.

4)  &lt;b&gt;Mary is just a woman = yes&lt;/b&gt;
I believe we are in agreement with this.  Perhaps to put it another way:  Mary is human, not divine.  The point of the blog entry was not to suggest she was divine, or like Jesus (both human and divine).  Rather it was to point out her distinction from all others throughout history, which many are content to dismiss.

As for point #5, when it comes right down to it, you're right.  But the vehemence with which some react to Mary, and their choice to focus on the doctrines &lt;i&gt;ad nauseum&lt;/i&gt;, as though it were the foundational doctrines of the Catholic Church, in my opinion tend to do injustice to the Mother of our Lord and Savior.

To answer point #6 with any meaning, requires knowledge that we -- mankind -- are not privy to.  There is speculation among theologians throughout history that, had Mary not given her unconditional "yes" to God, He simply would have found another means by which to save mankind.  However, that gets into a whole other discussion that really cannot be done justice in this forum.

Hope that begins to answer your questions.

Pax,
Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting your specific questions on this topic.  </p>
<p>I hope you will permit me to focus my reply on that which pertains to the original posting and point of that post.  It is not that adequate answers cannot be given to the other questions, but to try to answer them here could move things off topic.  In reality, those questions have been answered by many Catholic apologists and there are many good resources on the web &#8212; such as <a href="http://ic.net/~erasmus/ERASMUS9.HTM" rel="nofollow">Dave Armstrong&#8217;s Biblical Evidence for Catholicism</a> &#8212; which answer them quite deeply and from a number of perspectives.</p>
<p>So, let me get to the questions:</p>
<p>3)  <b>Why does Mary have to be special?</b><br />
Mary is &#8220;special&#8221; because she was chosen by God to carry, give birth to, raise and protect our Lord and Savior.  As I said in my blog entry, the implication of all this is unique to her and makes her distinct from all other women in history.</p>
<p>4)  <b>Mary is just a woman = yes</b><br />
I believe we are in agreement with this.  Perhaps to put it another way:  Mary is human, not divine.  The point of the blog entry was not to suggest she was divine, or like Jesus (both human and divine).  Rather it was to point out her distinction from all others throughout history, which many are content to dismiss.</p>
<p>As for point #5, when it comes right down to it, you&#8217;re right.  But the vehemence with which some react to Mary, and their choice to focus on the doctrines <i>ad nauseum</i>, as though it were the foundational doctrines of the Catholic Church, in my opinion tend to do injustice to the Mother of our Lord and Savior.</p>
<p>To answer point #6 with any meaning, requires knowledge that we &#8212; mankind &#8212; are not privy to.  There is speculation among theologians throughout history that, had Mary not given her unconditional &#8220;yes&#8221; to God, He simply would have found another means by which to save mankind.  However, that gets into a whole other discussion that really cannot be done justice in this forum.</p>
<p>Hope that begins to answer your questions.</p>
<p>Pax,<br />
Matt</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 05:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1)did mary sin?
2)was mary assumed or did she die?
3)why does mary have to be special?--ie whats gods purpose in mary beeing special
4)mary just a women = yes ; what makes her special is god.what makes jesus more than a man 
HE IS GOD ; a little difference 
5)tell me your points on mary********
remember people dont hate mary or peter for that matter just your story of them.
6)could any other women have been the son of god?
7)i dont want to argue a point with you that you may not agree on ; that is only reason i ask for more comments --but theres some to start</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1)did mary sin?<br />
2)was mary assumed or did she die?<br />
3)why does mary have to be special?&#8211;ie whats gods purpose in mary beeing special<br />
4)mary just a women = yes ; what makes her special is god.what makes jesus more than a man<br />
HE IS GOD ; a little difference<br />
5)tell me your points on mary********<br />
remember people dont hate mary or peter for that matter just your story of them.<br />
6)could any other women have been the son of god?<br />
7)i dont want to argue a point with you that you may not agree on ; that is only reason i ask for more comments &#8211;but theres some to start</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.catholicsphere.com/2006/05/08/they-just-love-to-hate-mary.html#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 13:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were the comments above not enough to start the conversation?  Is there something specific you were looking to discuss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were the comments above not enough to start the conversation?  Is there something specific you were looking to discuss?</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://blog.catholicsphere.com/2006/05/08/they-just-love-to-hate-mary.html#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 05:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would love to have this conversation 
please e-mail me with mary comments and we will start</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would love to have this conversation<br />
please e-mail me with mary comments and we will start</p>
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